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Data Predictability Shapes Weibull Weight-Scale Growth in Transformer Training

arXiv:2608.23573v1 Announce Type: new Abstract: A trained transformer's weight magnitudes can be summarized by a two-parameter Weibull distribution whose shape $k \approx 1.2$ is stable across layers and models, so the scale $\lambda$ carries most training-induced movement. What corpus property sets how much $\lambda$ grows? Using the bigram conditional entropy $D = H(\text{next} \mid \text{prev})$, a training-free statistic computed before training, we find across controlled corruption families a learning-rate-conditioned law, $\lambda^2 - \lambda_0^2 = C_0(\eta) + C_1(\eta)(H_r - D)^{0.59}$, where $H_r$ is a matched-budget shuffle baseline. The convex exponent is inherited from an independently measured data-side saturation relation rather than fitted directly to the growth curve. After removing the two per-$\eta$ coefficients, 23 runs spanning an order of magnitude in learning rate collapse onto $(H_r - D)^{0.59}$ with unit slope ($R^2 = 0.941$; direct per-$\eta$ fits are weaker, $R^2 \approx 0.82$). Because $D$ is computed before training, the law is a forward predictor: an end-to-end self-validation recovers held-out within-family weight growth with 5.7% relative error. The readout holds at model and per-layer resolutions and across two tested architectures, with the functional form preserved and only the coefficients changing. It also marks its boundary: cross-corpus prediction over-predicts code, implicating redundancy as a second axis of a broader $\Phi(D,R,A,H)$ data-to-weight framework.

SourcearXiv Machine LearningAuthor: Tiexin Ding

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[Submitted on 27 Jun 2026]

Title:Data Predictability Shapes Weibull Weight-Scale Growth in Transformer Training

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Abstract:A trained transformer's weight magnitudes can be summarized by a two-parameter Weibull distribution whose shape $k \approx 1.2$ is stable across layers and models, so the scale $\lambda$ carries most training-induced movement. What corpus property sets how much $\lambda$ grows? Using the bigram conditional entropy $D = H(\text{next} \mid \text{prev})$, a training-free statistic computed before training, we find across controlled corruption families a learning-rate-conditioned law, $\lambda^2 - \lambda_0^2 = C_0(\eta) + C_1(\eta)(H_r - D)^{0.59}$, where $H_r$ is a matched-budget shuffle baseline. The convex exponent is inherited from an independently measured data-side saturation relation rather than fitted directly to the growth curve. After removing the two per-$\eta$ coefficients, 23 runs spanning an order of magnitude in learning rate collapse onto $(H_r - D)^{0.59}$ with unit slope ($R^2 = 0.941$; direct per-$\eta$ fits are weaker, $R^2 \approx 0.82$). Because $D$ is computed before training, the law is a forward predictor: an end-to-end self-validation recovers held-out within-family weight growth with 5.7% relative error. The readout holds at model and per-layer resolutions and across two tested architectures, with the functional form preserved and only the coefficients changing. It also marks its boundary: cross-corpus prediction over-predicts code, implicating redundancy as a second axis of a broader $\Phi(D,R,A,H)$ data-to-weight framework.

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Machine Learning (cs.LG); Machine Learning (stat.ML)

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https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2608.23573

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From: Tiexin Ding [view email] [v1] Sat, 27 Jun 2026 12:26:39 UTC (2,360 KB)

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