Chinese DRAM/SSDs makers have an advantage over American and Taiwanese suppliers
China-based memory manufacturers benefit from government guidance to prioritize local module, PC, and smartphone makers, while foreign suppliers chase AI margins, causing retail price hikes. This strategy supports local employment and industry stability.
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China-based manufacturers of memory modules and solid-state drives may have an unexpected advantage over their overseas peers. That advantage could be China's government guidance for domestic memory makers to ship more chips to local makers of DRAM modules, SSDs, PCs, and smartphones to support these industries, said Nelson Duann, a senior vice president of Silicon Motion, in an interview with Tom's Hardware.
"China has domestic NAND and DRAM makers, and their strategy is not the same as that of foreign memory suppliers," Duann told us during the interview. "Because they receive government support, they also have a responsibility to help maintain the health of the local market."
Sales of memory modules and solid-state drives have declined drastically in retail in recent quarters due to massively increased prices of DRAM and NAND as the Big Three memory makers prioritize shipments of their chips to AI and data center customers that buy higher volumes and can pay higher prices for premium chips, which is why all memory devices are getting more expensive. As a result, not only memory module and SSD producers have been affected, but also suppliers of smartphones and PCs.
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But China-based manufacturers of DRAM and flash memory, such as CXMT and YMTC, may be obliged to support local industries, including producers of DRAM and SSD modules as well as smartphones and PCs, by China's federal or local governments.
"Foreign suppliers generally follow the highest-return opportunities and can allocate most of their supply to data centers," Duann said. "Chinese suppliers cannot do that in the same way because the government can provide guidance and encourage them to support certain local industries."
Indeed, while companies like ChangXin Memory and Yangtze Memory employ thousands of people, the DRAM and SSD module, smartphone, and PC industries employ hundreds of thousands of workers. While domestic AI and data center sectors are important, keeping the electronics industry afloat is even more crucially important for China's federal and local governments, as unemployment can hurt the country more than the lack of an AI model or service.
That said, it is not surprising that Lenovo has already adopted memory made in China in its systems, while other multinational vendors like Acer, Dell, and HP are evaluating such chips. Furthermore, even well-known module brands like Corsair and Patriot Memory have started using Chinese DRAM chips and SSD platforms in a bid to ensure a steady supply.
For more details, check out the whole interview with Nelson Duann on Tom's Hardware.
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"While domestic AI and data center sectors are important, keeping the electronics industry afloat is even more crucially important for China's federal and local governments, as unemployment can hurt the country more than the lack of an AI model or service."
too bad companies in other countries don't realize any of this, they are content to let it all collapse chasing singular short term profits that will not last forever, but the damage by the time AI normalizes could be permanent
I just want China be very successful and being the peoce of these things tumbling down again. They can do it
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I wouldn't call an unsustainable flow of government bailout money an advantage...
Once again, Chinese show themselves to be smoke and mirrors with everything they do.
That's the thing though, they don't really need bailouts anymore going forward.
The big 3 produced memory chips efficiently at a low price, CXMT can not compete on price if they have to apply the best technology they have at their disposal to match something that's just another tuesday for Samsung/Micron/Hynix.
But that cost-advantage is now gone that prices at 400-500%, CXMT probably can profitably produce memory chips for that price.
To put it in other words, Samsung/Micron/Hynix produced memory chips with a 90%+ yield, meaning 9 out of 10 they were able to sell and 1 went into the trash can and it was still profitable.
With the 5x price increases, CXMT just needs 20% of those 90% to be profitable, so less than 2 out of 10 need to pass QC and they can throw away the other 8 and STILL BE PROFITABLE.
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That's the thing though, they don't really need bailouts anymore going forward.
The big 3 produced memory chips efficiently at a low price, CXMT can not compete on price if they have to apply the best technology they have at their disposal to match something that's just another tuesday for Samsung/Micron/Hynix.
But that cost-advantage is now gone that prices at 400-500%, CXMT probably can profitably produce memory chips for that price.
To put it in other words, Samsung/Micron/Hynix produced memory chips with a 90%+ yield, meaning 9 out of 10 they were able to sell and 1 went into the trash can and it was still profitable.
With the 5x price increases, CXMT just needs 20% of those 90% to be profitable, so less than 2 out of 10 need to pass QC and they can throw away the other 8 and STILL BE PROFITABLE.
Well, even american OEMs ship their devices with chinese chips. ;-) It's a big club.
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I wouldn't call an unsustainable flow of government bailout money an advantage...
Once again, Chinese show themselves to be smoke and mirrors with everything they do.
Force companies via regilulation to limit their greed and have sustainable profit, is not the same as "flow of bailout money" 🤔
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